{"id":990,"date":"2014-08-11T10:04:07","date_gmt":"2014-08-11T14:04:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/digitalmediaphile.com\/?p=990"},"modified":"2014-08-17T08:24:52","modified_gmt":"2014-08-17T12:24:52","slug":"some-theories-on-wifi-issues-with-surface-pro-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/digitalmediaphile.com\/index.php\/2014\/08\/11\/some-theories-on-wifi-issues-with-surface-pro-3\/","title":{"rendered":"Some Theories on WiFi Issues with Surface Pro 3"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&#160;<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve been reading about issues with WiFi connectivity in the Microsoft Community Forums (and trying to help folks with these problems), primarily in two long threads:<\/p>\n<p>&#160;<\/p>\n<p><a title=\"http:\/\/answers.microsoft.com\/en-us\/surface\/forum\/surfpro3-surfnetwork\/surface-pro-3-limited-wifi-problem\/bd17691d-f00d-491c-a65e-fcd77a304b3a\" href=\"http:\/\/answers.microsoft.com\/en-us\/surface\/forum\/surfpro3-surfnetwork\/surface-pro-3-limited-wifi-problem\/bd17691d-f00d-491c-a65e-fcd77a304b3a\">http:\/\/answers.microsoft.com\/en-us\/surface\/forum\/surfpro3-surfnetwork\/surface-pro-3-limited-wifi-problem\/bd17691d-f00d-491c-a65e-fcd77a304b3a<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"http:\/\/answers.microsoft.com\/en-us\/surface\/forum\/surfpro3-surfnetwork\/surface-pro-3-wifi-and-network-connections-driver\/69c3cd0f-daac-44be-bec6-643d2e53f98a\" href=\"http:\/\/answers.microsoft.com\/en-us\/surface\/forum\/surfpro3-surfnetwork\/surface-pro-3-wifi-and-network-connections-driver\/69c3cd0f-daac-44be-bec6-643d2e53f98a\">http:\/\/answers.microsoft.com\/en-us\/surface\/forum\/surfpro3-surfnetwork\/surface-pro-3-wifi-and-network-connections-driver\/69c3cd0f-daac-44be-bec6-643d2e53f98a<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#160;<\/p>\n<p>I have some theories, but am having trouble extracting answers to my questions in these threads because I\u2019m asking afflicted users to make changes to their router configurations <strong><em>WHICH THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE TO DO UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES<\/em><\/strong>. I\u2019ve developed a couple of theories about some of the connectivity issues.<\/p>\n<p>&#160;<\/p>\n<p>1. <strong>SLOW WIFI<\/strong>: Some routers (Apple has been doing this for years) ship with both the 2.4 and 5 GHz channels set to the same SSID (name). Other vendors have started doing this, some by default, others let you specify this optionally. It\u2019s marketed as an \u201cSmart Connect\u201d type config where the \u201cbest\u201d channel is selected by the client\/router automatically. I asked a couple of users in the forum about their config and learned that they were using the same SSID. I asked them to make a change and specify unique SSIDs and attach to 5GHz. They\u2019ve reported their problem has disappeared.<\/p>\n<p>Over the weekend, I experimented with my newest Netgear Router, the newly released R8000. This router has TWO 5GHz radios that support the newest 802.11AC speeds. Netgear optionally offers the \u201cSmart\u201d connect where you can enable the same SSID name.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"smartconnect\" style=\"border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px\" border=\"0\" alt=\"smartconnect\" src=\"https:\/\/digitalmediaphile.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/smartconnect.png\" width=\"768\" height=\"350\" \/><\/p>\n<p>You have no control which radio you connect to when this is enabled. <\/p>\n<p>If you enable this kind if smart connect on routers covering both the 2.4 and 5GHz bands on certain routers, apparently you will always connect to the 2.4GHz SSID if you are using a Surface Pro 3. <\/p>\n<p>For folks with 2.4GHz 802.11n routers with no 5GHz, your speeds will be slower than if you had a dual band router. There\u2019s just no getting around this. <\/p>\n<p>&#160;<\/p>\n<p>2. <strong>LIMITED CONNECTIVITY WHEN COMING OUT OF INSTANT GO \u2018SLEEP\u2019<\/strong>: Most routers ship with channels set to auto select so that the user doesn\u2019t have to figure out what channel has the least interference\/usage. I\u2019ve always changed this to specific channels here and have had no issues. My theory here is that while the SP3 is in InstantGo sleep mode, the channel has changed and the Marvell adapter can\u2019t find it. Similarly, if the initial connection is made, while using the SP3, if the channel changes, the same \u201ccan\u2019t find new channel\u201d situation occurs. I\u2019ve been asking people to make changes in their settings to test this. Again, I know this should not be necessary. But it would seem to be a great diagnostic. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#160; I\u2019ve been reading about issues with WiFi connectivity in the Microsoft Community Forums (and trying to help folks with these problems), primarily in two long threads: &#160; http:\/\/answers.microsoft.com\/en-us\/surface\/forum\/surfpro3-surfnetwork\/surface-pro-3-limited-wifi-problem\/bd17691d-f00d-491c-a65e-fcd77a304b3a http:\/\/answers.microsoft.com\/en-us\/surface\/forum\/surfpro3-surfnetwork\/surface-pro-3-wifi-and-network-connections-driver\/69c3cd0f-daac-44be-bec6-643d2e53f98a &#160; I have some theories, but am having trouble extracting answers to my questions in these threads because I\u2019m asking afflicted users to make changes [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false}}},"categories":[140],"tags":[312,228,233],"blocksy_meta":{"styles_descriptor":{"styles":{"desktop":"","tablet":"","mobile":""},"google_fonts":[],"version":6}},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"featured_image_urls":{"full":"","thumbnail":"","medium":"","medium_large":"","large":"","1536x1536":"","2048x2048":""},"post_excerpt_stackable":"<p>&#160; I\u2019ve been reading about issues with WiFi connectivity in the Microsoft Community Forums (and trying to help folks with these problems), primarily in two long threads: &#160; http:\/\/answers.microsoft.com\/en-us\/surface\/forum\/surfpro3-surfnetwork\/surface-pro-3-limited-wifi-problem\/bd17691d-f00d-491c-a65e-fcd77a304b3a http:\/\/answers.microsoft.com\/en-us\/surface\/forum\/surfpro3-surfnetwork\/surface-pro-3-wifi-and-network-connections-driver\/69c3cd0f-daac-44be-bec6-643d2e53f98a &#160; I have some theories, but am having trouble extracting answers to my questions in these threads because I\u2019m asking afflicted users to make changes to their router configurations WHICH THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE TO DO UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES. I\u2019ve developed a couple of theories about some of the connectivity issues. &#160; 1. SLOW WIFI: Some routers (Apple has been doing this for years) ship with both the 2.4 and&hellip;<\/p>\n","category_list":"<a href=\"https:\/\/digitalmediaphile.com\/index.php\/category\/surface\/\" rel=\"category tag\">Surface<\/a>","author_info":{"name":"barbbowman","url":"https:\/\/digitalmediaphile.com\/index.php\/author\/barbbowman\/"},"comments_num":"0 comments","jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pvFKI-fY","jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/digitalmediaphile.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/990"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/digitalmediaphile.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/digitalmediaphile.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/digitalmediaphile.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/digitalmediaphile.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=990"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/digitalmediaphile.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/990\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/digitalmediaphile.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=990"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/digitalmediaphile.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=990"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/digitalmediaphile.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=990"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}