{"id":1756,"date":"2017-06-30T13:51:56","date_gmt":"2017-06-30T17:51:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/digitalmediaphile.com\/?p=1756"},"modified":"2017-06-30T13:53:58","modified_gmt":"2017-06-30T17:53:58","slug":"does-removing-smb1-break-anything-on-home-networks","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/digitalmediaphile.com\/index.php\/2017\/06\/30\/does-removing-smb1-break-anything-on-home-networks\/","title":{"rendered":"Does Removing SMB1 Break Anything on Home Networks?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>My previous post provided information ( primarily for home users) on how to turn off SMB1 to help avoid the bad guys who are out to cripple your Windows computer. Microsoft released some patches, and if you are totally up to date, you are protected. For Now. And to be honest, there are plenty of people out there with Windows 8\/8.1 and older that are not up to date.&nbsp; It is unknown if future attack vectors will use SMB1 in a different manner to install malware\/ransomware. Turning of SMB1 on your Windows computer closes the hole.<\/p>\n<p>Most casual home users (who aren\u2019t working in the tech or IT Pro industry) probably don\u2019t know that there are consumer networking devices and programs that rely on SMB. And there <strong>are<\/strong> devices that are using SMB1 and you MAY have devices and products where the vendor has not updated to at least SMB2. These issues probably won\u2019t impact casual home users, but I want to call them out.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>If, after disabling SMB1, you find something that doesn\u2019t work, it may well be a result of disabling SMB1. Before you enable it again, there are a few things to try, depending on the issue. Following are the three biggest \u201cgotcha\u2019s\u201d \u2013 with my comments, suggestions, work around\u2019s.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<h2>NAS (Networked Attached Storage) Boxes:Update the Firmware<\/h2>\n<p>Non USB based NAS boxes that are attached via Ethernet Cable (and probably a few of the WiFi ones as well) may rely on SMB1 to read\/write\/view files over your home network. Some vendors have firmware upgrades for some of their products that change the minimum SMB requirement to exclude SMB1. The gotcha is that some of the first generation NAS boxes are being ignored by vendors. I personally had this experience with an original Western Digital My Cloud NAS box (I replaced it with a newer version); and I believe that the WD My Cloud range of products is the most widely used for entry level home NAS. So if you try to browse files on your NAS box and windows throws an error message, see if you can update the firmware.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 10px; border: 0px currentcolor; display: inline; background-image: none;\" title=\"wdmycloud\" src=\"https:\/\/digitalmediaphile.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/wdmycloud.png\" alt=\"wdmycloud\" width=\"200\" height=\"200\" border=\"0\"\/><\/p>\n<p>You can update the firmware in a WD My Cloud device from the web interface. Go to <a title=\"http:\/\/wdmycloud\/UI\/\" href=\"http:\/\/wdmycloud\/UI\/\">http:\/\/wdmycloud\/UI\/<\/a> (log in if necessary). The firmware version will display and you will be able to update if needed (except on a first generation device). Alternatively, you can visit <a title=\"https:\/\/support.wdc.com\/product.aspx?ID=904#WD_downloads\" href=\"https:\/\/support.wdc.com\/product.aspx?ID=904#WD_downloads\">https:\/\/support.wdc.com\/product.aspx?ID=904#WD_downloads<\/a> and select Current Firmware after you have determined from the GUI if you have a 2.X version of a 04.X version. Version 2.30.165 (04\/12\/2017) utilizes SMB-3 by default; Version 04.05.00-315 (04\/12\/2017) also utilizes SMB-3 by default.<\/p>\n<p>If you have a NAS box from a different vendor, you will need to check with that vendor if you no longer have access after disabling SMB1.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Routers with USB External drives attached:Attach the drive to a PC<\/h2>\n<p>Most modern routers have at least one USB port that can be used to attached external USB drives or printers. These aren\u2019t broadly used by non technical home users because the steps to configure these devices are a little complicated.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 10px; border: 0px currentcolor; display: inline; background-image: none;\" title=\"router usb\" src=\"https:\/\/digitalmediaphile.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/router-usb.png\" alt=\"router usb\" width=\"358\" height=\"203\" border=\"0\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Additionally, the transfer speed between a computer and an external drive attached to a home router is slow compared to an external hard drive attached to a computer. If you are one of the few folks who have this configuration, it will probably stop working when SMB1 is disabled on a Windows computer. Attach the portable drive to your computer and move on.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Sonos: Move local libraries to a NAS box that supports higher than SMB1<\/h2>\n<p>I love my Sonos speakers and am infuriated that the folks at Sonos have been stalling for two years plus on updating a specific function that requires SMB1. And I\u2019m not alone in my aggravation at Sonos for their seemingly unfriendly attitude on this issue.<\/p>\n<p>Many folks use Sonos primarily to stream from online music sources these days, but there are still those who keep local libraries of ripped music on their local computers and use those to fill their homes with sound. One of the functions I previously used frequently in the past (not so much these days as I stream mostly from online sources like Amazon Music, Pandora, etc.) was streaming from a local PC where I had ripped all my music CD\u2019s. I had music on a couple of the computers on my home network and I had added both to the Sonos Music Library. This is one of the things that broke after disabling SMB1. But there is a work around. I have a (newer, non first generation) WD My Cloud with the latest firmware that I\u2019ve been using to back up my files (in addition to OneDrive, etc.). There is plenty of free space and there is an easily accessible, built in place to hold music. I opened two Windows\/File Explorer windows and copied everything from my Music folder to \\\\wdmycloud\\Public\\Shared Music\\ (you can just paste that into file explorer as long as you didn\u2019t change the name of your My Cloud device and it should open).<\/p>\n<p>Once everything was copied, I opened the Sonos desktop controller and navigated to Manage, Music Library Settings.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 10px; border: 0px currentcolor; display: inline; background-image: none;\" title=\"sonos lib1\" src=\"https:\/\/digitalmediaphile.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/sonos-lib1.png\" alt=\"sonos lib1\" width=\"334\" height=\"372\" border=\"0\"\/><\/p>\n<p>I was then able to add the folder from my WD My Cloud using the Add button (and I removed the old entries pointing to the two individual computers). Don\u2019t be confused by the word \u201cuploaded\u201d in the path shown below, I added a few things to the file structure so there is a subfolder called <em>uploaded<\/em> in the path that you won\u2019t see (or need) if you do this.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/digitalmediaphile.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/sonos-lib2.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 10px; border: 0px currentcolor; display: inline; background-image: none;\" title=\"sonos lib2\" src=\"https:\/\/digitalmediaphile.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/sonos-lib2_thumb.png\" alt=\"sonos lib2\" width=\"386\" height=\"241\" border=\"0\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Then, I went back to the Manage menu on the Sonos Controller and selected <strong>Update Music Library Now<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>So, to play ripped music from my home network, I open the Sonos Controller and select <strong>Music Library<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/digitalmediaphile.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/sonos.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 10px; border: 0px currentcolor; display: inline; background-image: none;\" title=\"sonos\" src=\"https:\/\/digitalmediaphile.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/sonos_thumb.png\" alt=\"sonos\" width=\"385\" height=\"293\" border=\"0\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Next, I select <strong>Folders<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/digitalmediaphile.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/sonos1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 10px; border: 0px currentcolor; display: inline; background-image: none;\" title=\"sonos1\" src=\"https:\/\/digitalmediaphile.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/sonos1_thumb.png\" alt=\"sonos1\" width=\"391\" height=\"310\" border=\"0\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Then I select the shared folder<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/digitalmediaphile.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/sonos-2.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 10px; border: 0px currentcolor; display: inline; background-image: none;\" title=\"sonos 2\" src=\"https:\/\/digitalmediaphile.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/sonos-2_thumb.png\" alt=\"sonos 2\" width=\"389\" height=\"309\" border=\"0\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>And I can select the Music I wish to play<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/digitalmediaphile.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/sonos-3.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 10px; border: 0px currentcolor; display: inline; background-image: none;\" title=\"sonos 3\" src=\"https:\/\/digitalmediaphile.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/sonos-3_thumb.png\" alt=\"sonos 3\" width=\"383\" height=\"304\" border=\"0\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Note that Play To\/Cast To should continue to work and are not impacted by turning off\/removing SMB1.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>As far as I can determine, these are the three biggest device categories that rely on SMB1 that might impact home users. For advanced users and Enterprise customers, there are others. Microsoft is keeping a list at <a title=\"https:\/\/blogs.technet.microsoft.com\/filecab\/2017\/06\/01\/smb1-product-clearinghouse\/\" href=\"https:\/\/blogs.technet.microsoft.com\/filecab\/2017\/06\/01\/smb1-product-clearinghouse\/\">https:\/\/blogs.technet.microsoft.com\/filecab\/2017\/06\/01\/smb1-product-clearinghouse\/<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>My previous post provided information ( primarily for home users) on how to turn off SMB1 to help avoid the bad guys who are out to cripple your Windows computer. Microsoft released some patches, and if you are totally up to date, you are protected. For Now. And to be honest, there are plenty of [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false}}},"categories":[360],"tags":[373,30,370],"blocksy_meta":{"styles_descriptor":{"styles":{"desktop":"","tablet":"","mobile":""},"google_fonts":[],"version":6}},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"featured_image_urls":{"full":"","thumbnail":"","medium":"","medium_large":"","large":"","1536x1536":"","2048x2048":""},"post_excerpt_stackable":"<p>My previous post provided information ( primarily for home users) on how to turn off SMB1 to help avoid the bad guys who are out to cripple your Windows computer. 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